Iraq War

[nighthawk101]

and the deficit was at that number, adjusted for inflation, long before Bush was in office.

double post pimp

[FThompson08]

WOW! a self-described opponent of the war is used as an unbiased source.

[nighthawk101]

Its from NBC, which is a national news source and there are three different estimates from that article alone that it will cost 2 trillion.

In addition to that, we are 8 trillion in debt and had a budget surplus at the time Bush took office.

What exactly am I taking out of context? That this war costs a shampoo?

[FThompson08]

NBC is possibly the most liberal news organization in all of America. It hired a man named William Arkin who called the troops mercenaries and said that they are lucky they aren't getting spit on.

[nighthawk101]

Its a national credible news source. The three people who gave estimates are also credible and have a background in economy.

[FThompson08]

Their credibility comes after years of good reporting, however in the past 3 years they have become very far-left. And even if those inflated predictions are right, what have you or anyone else had to sacrifice because of the deficit. Right now we are in the best economy of all-time.

[nighthawk101]

Their credibility comes after years of good reporting, however in the past 3 years they have become very far-left. And even if those inflated predictions are right, what have you or anyone else had to sacrifice because of the deficit. Right now we are in the best economy of all-time.

This is getting ridiculous. Every thing that is not in your favor must mean that it is a far left liberal douche bag source.

The "inflated" predictions are correct. And, to say we are having a true economic boom right now is laughable. Why dont we just send some more jobs to Taiwan? Maybe that will help the boom.

[LORD MANN]

i'm left what you gone do about it

[FThompson08]

Their credibility comes after years of good reporting, however in the past 3 years they have become very far-left. And even if those inflated predictions are right, what have you or anyone else had to sacrifice because of the deficit. Right now we are in the best economy of all-time.

This is getting ridiculous. Every thing that is not in your favor must mean that it is a far left liberal douche bag source.

The "inflated" predictions are correct. And, to say we are having a true economic boom right now is laughable. Why dont we just send some more jobs to Taiwan? Maybe that will help the boom.

Coming from Mr. Holocaust denier, the fact that you say I turn away facts is the laughable thing. And jobs to Taiwan is a good thing, the more low skill jobs over there means more high paying jobs here. If all these jobs were being taken away and affecting our economy like you say, then why is unemploymen tso low? You need to read John Stossel's book Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity. It describes this in more detail.

[nighthawk101]

Coming from Mr. Holocaust denier, the fact that you say I turn away facts is the laughable thing.

I dont "deny" anything. I have a dispute with certain facts. I never will say that many Jews were not wrongfully imprisoned and killed. I research and look into this.... I dont just believe something because someone else said it. But why bring other things into this? This is another ad hominem attack. Something you seem to specialize in.

And jobs to Taiwan is a good thing, the more low skill jobs over there means more high paying jobs here.

That is not the case... jobs that Americans could and should be doing are being outsourced because lower wages can be paid overseas meaning more profit for companies here.

If all these jobs were being taken away and affecting our economy like you say, then why is unemploymen tso low?

When you stop actively looking for a job you are no longer counted on the unemployment percentage. That can be one reason. In addition to that, unemployment levels may be "good" but the quality of job is not the same as it was before.

[nighthawk101]

But lets get back to the deficit... 8 trillion is an astonishing number and it keeps rising every day. The economy will collapse on itself if this trend is not reversed.

Do you ever look at something in a way that Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh dont tell you about? You are so wound up in this neo-conservative spin that its quite hilarious

[LORD MANN]

Do you ever look at something in a way that Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh dont tell you about? You are so wound up in this neo-conservative spin that its quite hilarious

ZING

[FThompson08]

OK you criticize me for attacking you but you call me a retard and neo-con, typical liberal hypocricy. And you make that the comment that companies send jobs over there to make more money, well that is a good thing the more money they make the more money they pump into the economy. ANd you can't even concede that unemployment is virtually zero, seems like your the one that only takes your cues from others, i.e. Ted Kennedy, Barak Obama, and probably Che Guevara.

[nighthawk101]

OK you criticize me for attacking you but you call me a retard and neo-con, typical liberal hypocricy.

Who are you speaking to here? The liberal part seems to rule me out. Dont take for granted that everyone who doesnt support the ultra neo-conservative Bush administration is liberal. I supported Bush as late as 2004, but he continually let me down with his policies that were more favorable to foreign nationals than to Americans.

I debate facts with you. You have a hard time doing that. You are in fact wound up in the neo-conservative spin. That is not an attack but fact. Your posts dictate that. There is a difference from saying, "well this person is neo-conservative based on what he posts" than "well your a liberal douche bag holocaust denier who loves ted kennedy.... My only basis for this post is because you disagree with me and I cant come up with an intelligent response for rebuttal"

And you make that the comment that companies send jobs over there to make more money, well that is a good thing the more money they make the more money they pump into the economy.

They take jobs away from Americans and pump money into ANOTHER country's economy. That is not good in any way.

ANd you can't even concede that unemployment is virtually zero

No i wont concede that it is zero. I will say that its around 5%. That doesnt take into account the quality of job however or the people that are no longer actively looking for a job. You cant concede that the deficit is a MAJOR problem. You have an interesting style of debate. You hop from subject to subject making claims, rarely defending them when you are called out.


The fact that this administration supports taking jobs away from Americans and giving them to people from Pakistan is ridiculous. Thats nothing new though... its a long line of non-nationalist principles that this administration has taken on.

P.S. - I have never listend to a word that Ted Kennedy, Barak Obama, Che Guevara has said.

[nighthawk101]

He was convicted and hanged for autrocities in the 1990s

Who was?